Last night's TV
Oct. 18th, 2006 03:33 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
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Not even my rampant Mohinder crush can keep me from saying that was silly. You don't chase after political candidates in the street asking them if they are having mutant superpowers and expect them to do anything but what he did. And I really can't fanwank it into making sense. Mohinder is not only a smart, educated and allegedly logical man, he's also keenly and personally aware of the general dismissive reaction to his father's theories. He got the guy's attention with the possible threat to his life – at that point you tell him you need to speak to him privately, or at least with only a trusted goon or two. Last week's inconsistencies I could chalk up to emotion; this week's are starting to look like plain old lack of thinking. Which in the character who seems to be cast as the thinker is a little disconcerting.
By the by, do congressional candidates really travel with that many bodyguards nowadays? I know it's a new and scary era and all, but when last I had personal contact with a congressional candidate he had no bodyguards whatsoever, just a campaign manager and a few volunteers who tended to be something less than intimidating.
Does anyone know if he's running for first time election or re-election? I could have sworn no one has said anything about him being an incumbent Congressman already – and frankly, if he is, what's he so worried about? Incumbents rarely lose, and particularly in New York, which is practically a one party town except for the mayor and governor spots. But in Vegas didn't someone refer to him as the Congressman?
I really kind of wanted to slap him upside the head for cheating on his wife, which is a) wrong and b) really stupid in a candidate who cares so much about avoiding gossip that he's willing to pay his brother to leave him alone. Sex scandals are much bigger news than wacky siblings. And what happens in Vegas with a total stranger who you haven't so much as run a background check on is most unlikely to stay in Vegas, even if she wasn't being paid to set you up. If you're going to be a conniving, selfish, power grubbing bastard, at least be good at it. Although lord knows I can't say it's not a believable weakness for a politician to have.
Though speaking of not believable, am I the only one who thought that not-Niki's performance felt enough like, well, a performance, that if I were him I'd think it was weird? YMMV, of course, but I'd expect a new hookup to be a little more into the mutual touching and a little less into pushing me away so they could put on a show.
I loved the split mirror effect of the elevator doors, though. Nicely done. And it got me when her son told her it was safer over the Internet, with the knowledge she thought he didn't have and the taking care of her and the touch of resignation and all.
Still not loving Peter as much as I think I'm supposed to, though I'm glad to get the "he picks up other people's powers" memo – that makes as much sense as anything else, and it fits with his caretaker persona. But I'm finding his relationship with Simone kind of creepy rather than charming. He knew she was with Isaac, he didn't ask about that till the next morning, he doesn't want to be the rebound guy and yet he still made a move right after she made the toast about love that's no good for you – um, 'kay. Have I done dumber things for love? Yep. But he doesn't really seem to be owning them.
Still feeling the Claire love in a big way. Poor bunny! Attempted ape, murder, terrifying waking up violated and exposed, literally broken open, having to hide it from your folks, crying on the stairs – she really does remind me of Buffy at her best. And I must admit I cheered her on when she crashed the car. I don't believe in the death penalty and I wouldn't have supported it just for revenge, but the combination of getting her own back and refusing to be a victim, *and* avenging her fellow-victim, *and* her making sure first that he wouldn't stop raping others or show remorse, yeah. Plus it is the first time she's really deliberately used her powers. And I love how the look that girl gave her, which passed as jealousy at the time, now gets reinterpreted as fellow feeling and maybe even an attempt to convey a warning. That's elegant storytelling. Although thinking of her as a real person, I could wish she'd done something less ambiguous to warn or prevent.
I was quite startled to find out that Claire's mom is still around. Her dad always seemed to talk about her in the past tense. I wonder if she's in on it. And if she's not, what she'll do when she finds out what he's up to vis a vis their daughter? I wonder if Little Bro is a superhero too?
Gotta love Hiro. Though no, cheating is not remotely the same as selling pictures of yourself. He really did know that, he shouldn't have let his friend play on his excitement at being a superhero to do something wrong. But I didn't have any real fear that he was going to keep slipping down the slope because he doesn't fundamentally care about money and power and suits. And it was awesome to see future Hiro, when he's become the real thing. Almost like getting a glimpse of ATS season 4 Wesley during Buffy season three.
In the inverse of Peter, I am more for Isaac than maybe I should be. He is a junkie, after all, and it's very easy for me to undercode the importance of that when I never see him doing anything really bad to get his fix, or failing to do anything really needed because of it. (Okay, he didn't answer the door. But the same thing would have happened if he'd gone grocery shopping when they dropped by.) Mostly I just see him arguing with Simone about something where he's right and she's wrong. If they showed more and told less I think I would have the reaction I really ought to, of tough love at best rather than taking his side, but as it is, when he said "you only want the ones I paint when I'm high" I kind of wanted to cheer.
Am also a little confused about "save the cheerleader, save the world." First of all New York, much as I love it, is not the world. Or is that just the beginning of the bad?
Also it's hard for me to see what Claire's superhealing powers could do to fight off a citykiller explosion, much less a planetkiller. She can run into infernos, but bombs pretty much need stopped before they go off, and how is she going to get to them or do that better than someonw who's just plain willing to die to get it done? Maybe what she has is information about the people planning the attack, or access to it, because she knows her dad. Do you all think the mutant search and observe people are really also planning to bomb New York – 'cause, why? -- or is that some other villain that the mutants are needed to stop?
Studio 60
The weather with Pat Robertson – bwah! I often like the throwaway concepts better than the developed ones, unless the developed ones have a further twist and/or stop as soon as we've gotten the first joke. I think that's just my preferred style of comedy – I almost always think SNL and Mad TV and in fact, most comedy sketches go on too long. Though Jenny Doesn't Have a Baby did make me giggle out loud.
I also loved Danny's line about "we have the barn, let's put on a show." Bradley Whitford does that mix of wistful, determined, and self-mocking very well indeed. And I loved his interaction with Matt, especially the finishing sentences thing "and you are…" which shows just how seamlessly they communicate and how well they know each other.
I thought the FHM girl thing was mildly piggish – I'm pretty sure Danny's point was, go out with someone you could never be serious about, but it also seemed to carry some freight of weird implications – like, non-smart girls will be sexier, or sexy girls won't be smart, or hurting the feelings of non-smart girls doesn’t count, or something. But I suspect this is the equivalent of doing an "I hate men" rant -- it *is* a little troubling, but it's also not literally meant, more a shorthand for showing solidarity with someone who's hurting.
Then again, Jordan has me wondering if I'm sexist myself, because I must admit, I was totally cheering for Jack when he slapped her down with the sign on his door line. Even though yes, that was a loathsome TV show concept she passed on (and what if more than one couple survives the dirt? Or what if none do? As game design goes, it's got flaws.) Still, I've been wanting to do that for ages. Jordan, you work for him. If you're so good at your job, at some point you need to recognize that that's a legitimate part of it. It's fine to stand up for your principles (and your autonomy) but she never, that I've seen, has an interaction with him that does NOT involve her defying him and being flippant about it, and she's never (so far) wrong. I liked his line about it being said by a coach who hasn't won in nine years, too. She not only knows the obscure play the guy wrote, she quotes Pericles from memory? If they showed her swotting it up in advance to woo him, maybe I'd be touched, but this, not so much.
Martha the reporter is much more my speed, in spite of the shirt-unbuttoning thing which I thought was manipulative and unfairly reductionist in its view of men – and honestly, how long could you last in Hollywood without developing some immunity to cleavage? But apart from that she's been smart, confident, clever, ethical, skilled at dealing with people but also warm in relating to them, unapologetically clear on what her own agenda is and going after it hard, but also empathic in expecting other people to have their own. It's a little like seeing CJ Craig from The West Wing getting to play offense instead of defense.
I thought her speech about the divided culture and the criticism of the religious right and pop culture being important was a little pompous even though I agree with it, but that's one of those periodic Sorkin Mission Statements that I try not to hold against the character appointed to deliver them.
I liked Harriet's premarital sex line *and* that she knows what a pull quote is.
And Sting! With a lute!
No writer's room again, though. I wonder how the Studio 60 writers that are not Sorkin feel about their virtual counterparts' marginalization. There *are* Studio 60 writers besides Sorkin, right?
And I thought the Danny street cred thing was a little odd. Danny himself is working for this network -- how would that not compromise his street cred if advising someone else to work there would? I get the idea that intregrity demands you give the best advice you can, but integrity and street cred? Related, yet not the same. Plus if he's that concerned with integrity he shouldn't be changing his mind as a good-conduct prize to Jordan. It would be legit to say "you doing that convinced me this is a network that would value this show, treat it right and put it in a worthy context" which maybe is what he was going for, but it actually came out to me more like "I told this guy to do something, not because I'm now convinced it's in his best interest, but to reward you for doing something else I approve of."
Not even my rampant Mohinder crush can keep me from saying that was silly. You don't chase after political candidates in the street asking them if they are having mutant superpowers and expect them to do anything but what he did. And I really can't fanwank it into making sense. Mohinder is not only a smart, educated and allegedly logical man, he's also keenly and personally aware of the general dismissive reaction to his father's theories. He got the guy's attention with the possible threat to his life – at that point you tell him you need to speak to him privately, or at least with only a trusted goon or two. Last week's inconsistencies I could chalk up to emotion; this week's are starting to look like plain old lack of thinking. Which in the character who seems to be cast as the thinker is a little disconcerting.
By the by, do congressional candidates really travel with that many bodyguards nowadays? I know it's a new and scary era and all, but when last I had personal contact with a congressional candidate he had no bodyguards whatsoever, just a campaign manager and a few volunteers who tended to be something less than intimidating.
Does anyone know if he's running for first time election or re-election? I could have sworn no one has said anything about him being an incumbent Congressman already – and frankly, if he is, what's he so worried about? Incumbents rarely lose, and particularly in New York, which is practically a one party town except for the mayor and governor spots. But in Vegas didn't someone refer to him as the Congressman?
I really kind of wanted to slap him upside the head for cheating on his wife, which is a) wrong and b) really stupid in a candidate who cares so much about avoiding gossip that he's willing to pay his brother to leave him alone. Sex scandals are much bigger news than wacky siblings. And what happens in Vegas with a total stranger who you haven't so much as run a background check on is most unlikely to stay in Vegas, even if she wasn't being paid to set you up. If you're going to be a conniving, selfish, power grubbing bastard, at least be good at it. Although lord knows I can't say it's not a believable weakness for a politician to have.
Though speaking of not believable, am I the only one who thought that not-Niki's performance felt enough like, well, a performance, that if I were him I'd think it was weird? YMMV, of course, but I'd expect a new hookup to be a little more into the mutual touching and a little less into pushing me away so they could put on a show.
I loved the split mirror effect of the elevator doors, though. Nicely done. And it got me when her son told her it was safer over the Internet, with the knowledge she thought he didn't have and the taking care of her and the touch of resignation and all.
Still not loving Peter as much as I think I'm supposed to, though I'm glad to get the "he picks up other people's powers" memo – that makes as much sense as anything else, and it fits with his caretaker persona. But I'm finding his relationship with Simone kind of creepy rather than charming. He knew she was with Isaac, he didn't ask about that till the next morning, he doesn't want to be the rebound guy and yet he still made a move right after she made the toast about love that's no good for you – um, 'kay. Have I done dumber things for love? Yep. But he doesn't really seem to be owning them.
Still feeling the Claire love in a big way. Poor bunny! Attempted ape, murder, terrifying waking up violated and exposed, literally broken open, having to hide it from your folks, crying on the stairs – she really does remind me of Buffy at her best. And I must admit I cheered her on when she crashed the car. I don't believe in the death penalty and I wouldn't have supported it just for revenge, but the combination of getting her own back and refusing to be a victim, *and* avenging her fellow-victim, *and* her making sure first that he wouldn't stop raping others or show remorse, yeah. Plus it is the first time she's really deliberately used her powers. And I love how the look that girl gave her, which passed as jealousy at the time, now gets reinterpreted as fellow feeling and maybe even an attempt to convey a warning. That's elegant storytelling. Although thinking of her as a real person, I could wish she'd done something less ambiguous to warn or prevent.
I was quite startled to find out that Claire's mom is still around. Her dad always seemed to talk about her in the past tense. I wonder if she's in on it. And if she's not, what she'll do when she finds out what he's up to vis a vis their daughter? I wonder if Little Bro is a superhero too?
Gotta love Hiro. Though no, cheating is not remotely the same as selling pictures of yourself. He really did know that, he shouldn't have let his friend play on his excitement at being a superhero to do something wrong. But I didn't have any real fear that he was going to keep slipping down the slope because he doesn't fundamentally care about money and power and suits. And it was awesome to see future Hiro, when he's become the real thing. Almost like getting a glimpse of ATS season 4 Wesley during Buffy season three.
In the inverse of Peter, I am more for Isaac than maybe I should be. He is a junkie, after all, and it's very easy for me to undercode the importance of that when I never see him doing anything really bad to get his fix, or failing to do anything really needed because of it. (Okay, he didn't answer the door. But the same thing would have happened if he'd gone grocery shopping when they dropped by.) Mostly I just see him arguing with Simone about something where he's right and she's wrong. If they showed more and told less I think I would have the reaction I really ought to, of tough love at best rather than taking his side, but as it is, when he said "you only want the ones I paint when I'm high" I kind of wanted to cheer.
Am also a little confused about "save the cheerleader, save the world." First of all New York, much as I love it, is not the world. Or is that just the beginning of the bad?
Also it's hard for me to see what Claire's superhealing powers could do to fight off a citykiller explosion, much less a planetkiller. She can run into infernos, but bombs pretty much need stopped before they go off, and how is she going to get to them or do that better than someonw who's just plain willing to die to get it done? Maybe what she has is information about the people planning the attack, or access to it, because she knows her dad. Do you all think the mutant search and observe people are really also planning to bomb New York – 'cause, why? -- or is that some other villain that the mutants are needed to stop?
Studio 60
The weather with Pat Robertson – bwah! I often like the throwaway concepts better than the developed ones, unless the developed ones have a further twist and/or stop as soon as we've gotten the first joke. I think that's just my preferred style of comedy – I almost always think SNL and Mad TV and in fact, most comedy sketches go on too long. Though Jenny Doesn't Have a Baby did make me giggle out loud.
I also loved Danny's line about "we have the barn, let's put on a show." Bradley Whitford does that mix of wistful, determined, and self-mocking very well indeed. And I loved his interaction with Matt, especially the finishing sentences thing "and you are…" which shows just how seamlessly they communicate and how well they know each other.
I thought the FHM girl thing was mildly piggish – I'm pretty sure Danny's point was, go out with someone you could never be serious about, but it also seemed to carry some freight of weird implications – like, non-smart girls will be sexier, or sexy girls won't be smart, or hurting the feelings of non-smart girls doesn’t count, or something. But I suspect this is the equivalent of doing an "I hate men" rant -- it *is* a little troubling, but it's also not literally meant, more a shorthand for showing solidarity with someone who's hurting.
Then again, Jordan has me wondering if I'm sexist myself, because I must admit, I was totally cheering for Jack when he slapped her down with the sign on his door line. Even though yes, that was a loathsome TV show concept she passed on (and what if more than one couple survives the dirt? Or what if none do? As game design goes, it's got flaws.) Still, I've been wanting to do that for ages. Jordan, you work for him. If you're so good at your job, at some point you need to recognize that that's a legitimate part of it. It's fine to stand up for your principles (and your autonomy) but she never, that I've seen, has an interaction with him that does NOT involve her defying him and being flippant about it, and she's never (so far) wrong. I liked his line about it being said by a coach who hasn't won in nine years, too. She not only knows the obscure play the guy wrote, she quotes Pericles from memory? If they showed her swotting it up in advance to woo him, maybe I'd be touched, but this, not so much.
Martha the reporter is much more my speed, in spite of the shirt-unbuttoning thing which I thought was manipulative and unfairly reductionist in its view of men – and honestly, how long could you last in Hollywood without developing some immunity to cleavage? But apart from that she's been smart, confident, clever, ethical, skilled at dealing with people but also warm in relating to them, unapologetically clear on what her own agenda is and going after it hard, but also empathic in expecting other people to have their own. It's a little like seeing CJ Craig from The West Wing getting to play offense instead of defense.
I thought her speech about the divided culture and the criticism of the religious right and pop culture being important was a little pompous even though I agree with it, but that's one of those periodic Sorkin Mission Statements that I try not to hold against the character appointed to deliver them.
I liked Harriet's premarital sex line *and* that she knows what a pull quote is.
And Sting! With a lute!
No writer's room again, though. I wonder how the Studio 60 writers that are not Sorkin feel about their virtual counterparts' marginalization. There *are* Studio 60 writers besides Sorkin, right?
And I thought the Danny street cred thing was a little odd. Danny himself is working for this network -- how would that not compromise his street cred if advising someone else to work there would? I get the idea that intregrity demands you give the best advice you can, but integrity and street cred? Related, yet not the same. Plus if he's that concerned with integrity he shouldn't be changing his mind as a good-conduct prize to Jordan. It would be legit to say "you doing that convinced me this is a network that would value this show, treat it right and put it in a worthy context" which maybe is what he was going for, but it actually came out to me more like "I told this guy to do something, not because I'm now convinced it's in his best interest, but to reward you for doing something else I approve of."
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Date: 2006-10-18 02:20 pm (UTC)Though speaking of not believable, am I the only one who thought that not-Niki's performance felt enough like, well, a performance, that if I were him I'd think it was weird?
I was saying while we were watching it: dude, she is doing that WAY too well for an amateur. Get a clue, Nathan.
Hiro is still my favorite in a big way (and future-Hiro! SQUEE!), but Claire's been the second since day one and she's moving up fast. I knew she was going to crash the car with both of them in it the second she asked if she could drive, and I loved that she questioned him first -- as you say, making sure he showed no signs of remorse.
I kinda wanted her to drag it out a bit more, going faster and faster and letting him start to feel the fear first. But on the whole I think I'm glad she didn't.
I'm not sure we are supposed to like Peter all that much. We'll see. I've heard some very interesting speculations about his future, though.
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Date: 2006-10-18 10:35 pm (UTC)*nodsnods* You're not wrong, but I can live with it better in some cases than others. If I find it plausible in the character, it's still annoying, but not nearly as much as when it's puncturing my suspension of disbelief.
Does the Peter speculation depend on spoilers? If not, I'd love a pointer.
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Date: 2006-10-19 02:56 am (UTC)I find it oddly compelling.