TV tonight
Oct. 2nd, 2006 11:01 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I'm still on the fence about Heroes. I feel bad for Claire and the world of pain coming her way in re: her Dad, who appears to be on the bad, or at least opposite, side. That's gonna sting, one way or the other.
I am still loving Mohinder, although given the invasions of this apartment I'm starting to wonder why he hasn't already either moved or changed the locks -- or set a trap, at least a camera. And I like the neighbor girl so far. And yes, Hiro is cute -- how totally wiggy to find a comic book about your own life.
I confess to being kind of tired of reflection girl (Niki?) and her Id Issues. I'm not saying it couldn't be interesting, but it hasn't been yet. I'm so not into the characters that pinball from reaction to reaction without ever achieving a proactive agenda of their own, and so far that's all she's done. Like her longsuffering kid, though.
And I'm kind of meh on Siler and his serial killer plot. I'm happy to have it addressed that just having powers doesn't automatically make them good guys, and in theory I'm down with the "what responsibility do the researchers bear?" ethical dilemma, but there are already a gracious plenty of shows doing the chase-the-crazy-criminal much better. And I have to wonder why the cop who hears voices hasn't figured out by age whatever that he's the only one who does and he'd better mask it. Did he just start?
I'm mixed on Isaac and Simone, too. I have sympathy with "I don't want to date a crazy heroin addict who burns his paintings", lord knows, but she really doesn't seem to me to be paying enough attention to the pretty suggestive circumstantial evidence she saw last time that he *is* painting the future -- if he'd painted that canvas after that day's paper had been delivered, it would still have been wet. Plus, while it's undoubtedly true that "I can paint the future" would not be taken seriously by Homeland Security, that doesn't mean they can't warn them, it just means they can't tell them how they know. In these paranoid days it's hard for me to believe that an anonymous tip or a claim to have overheard it somehow wouldn't get taken seriously. The bigger risk is that Isaac would be mistaken for a terrorist (or malicious prankster) himself. The vibe I got was that she wasn't seriously considering it, she was just trying to get him to calm down, and while that's fair enough really -- how seriously would I take it if one of y'all told me you could paint the future while you were high? -- since we know he's right and she's not, I'm ready for it to be over soon.
I like the twist that it was the unlikeable brother who could fly, but I feel like the revelations about Peter's dad are flying a little too thick and fast and verge on melodrama. Can the next conversation between him and his mom be about making lasagna or doing laundry or something?
And *eyeroll* to the voiceover again. So far I'm entertained, but I'm not in love.
Studio 60, on the other hand, I am in love with. I may quibble and whine because hey, that's just how I roll, but there's little doubt in my mind that this is "my show" and I'm in it as long as I can stand to be.
I admire the sand tackling scene immensely. First, yum. It's proving exactly how well they know each other *and* straddling. Sometimes I'm just that easy.
But second, I have to admire the deft economy of having the characters explicitly point out the homoeroticism. Especially since Matt is a writer as well as a character, and he's locating the interpretation not in himself but in how it appears to outside onlookers, it manages to simultaneously acknowledge *and* diffuse the slash reading. It's a masterpiece of hide-in-plain-sight slight of hand.
Of course, in an ideal world they wouldn't *be* uncomfortable with the homoeroticism, but ideal worlds make boring TV and I don't mind this level of mild internalized homophobia, especially in the beginning. It leaves them somewhere to grow.
It's minor but I didn't think Science, Schmience was all that funny. Obviously -- I hope it's obvious -- I'm on the side of the facts, I just thought it was a very authentically SNL thing, the skit whose one joke is in the premise and it's all downhill from there.
Still torn about the ex-girlfriend. On the one hand, I admire her for standing up for the little guy -- the little guy often gets mocked or dismissed by the hard driving ambitious talented people, and it's nice to see that rebuked from time to time with a little compassion.
On the other hand, *yes*, they're just trying to raise their kids well. But while there's nothing wrong with the motivation, there's something messed up about a culture that believes that you can raise you kids well by not exposing them to dangerous ideas. And that *is* funny, and sad too, and needs pointing out so people can take a step back and see how it looks from the outside. Plus it's not like the joke made fun of them for only making a little money and working in a bread factory. They may not have a lot of power in the country but they have way too much power over the kids. It's *that* exercise of power that it was mocking, and I call it fair game.
Still on the fence about Jordan, too. She's defiant with her superior not just when it counts but almost always, and oddly deferential to her inferior (Danny). Maybe that's supposed to be egalitarian or principled, but it just comes off to me like somebody who's not at home in her role. Which could be interesting if that's the idea, that she's new to this and still trying to figure out where the boundaries are, but I get the sense that we're supposed to read her as supremely confident yet endearingly coltish instead.
On the other hand every time he talks to her Danny gets surprised vulnerable face, and I could forgive a lot for that. And I'll be interested to see how the tell-all-book plotline plays out with the genders swapped compared to the VP on The West Wing.
Didn't the sex club thing happen to the actress who played 7 of 9? I don't mean to make light of the real life trauma of having your spouse overpersuade you to something you find distasteful, especially in the sexual arena. But I do want to say for anyone whose only exposure to the concept has been that and this, that there are women who go to these things of their own accord. It's not all arm-twisty husbands and unhappy wives.
I was hoping for a little bit more writers in the writing plotline -- there was a whole writer's room in the clothing scolding scene, not just the two guys Matt has a grudge against. Where did they go? Oh, well, maybe next time. I like the Matt/Jeanie trust your instincts lesson, and the t-shirt. And I adored the final look between Matt and Danny -- and Danny was dancing with the ex. After her reference to "you'd go nuts if I slow danced with Danny", I have to wonder if that's deliberate on her part.
I also have to wonder, after all that talk about DUI and seatbelts, if we're supposed to make something of the fact that Matt drove off without buckling his, or whether it just doesn't look cool and/or I blinked and missed it.
I am still loving Mohinder, although given the invasions of this apartment I'm starting to wonder why he hasn't already either moved or changed the locks -- or set a trap, at least a camera. And I like the neighbor girl so far. And yes, Hiro is cute -- how totally wiggy to find a comic book about your own life.
I confess to being kind of tired of reflection girl (Niki?) and her Id Issues. I'm not saying it couldn't be interesting, but it hasn't been yet. I'm so not into the characters that pinball from reaction to reaction without ever achieving a proactive agenda of their own, and so far that's all she's done. Like her longsuffering kid, though.
And I'm kind of meh on Siler and his serial killer plot. I'm happy to have it addressed that just having powers doesn't automatically make them good guys, and in theory I'm down with the "what responsibility do the researchers bear?" ethical dilemma, but there are already a gracious plenty of shows doing the chase-the-crazy-criminal much better. And I have to wonder why the cop who hears voices hasn't figured out by age whatever that he's the only one who does and he'd better mask it. Did he just start?
I'm mixed on Isaac and Simone, too. I have sympathy with "I don't want to date a crazy heroin addict who burns his paintings", lord knows, but she really doesn't seem to me to be paying enough attention to the pretty suggestive circumstantial evidence she saw last time that he *is* painting the future -- if he'd painted that canvas after that day's paper had been delivered, it would still have been wet. Plus, while it's undoubtedly true that "I can paint the future" would not be taken seriously by Homeland Security, that doesn't mean they can't warn them, it just means they can't tell them how they know. In these paranoid days it's hard for me to believe that an anonymous tip or a claim to have overheard it somehow wouldn't get taken seriously. The bigger risk is that Isaac would be mistaken for a terrorist (or malicious prankster) himself. The vibe I got was that she wasn't seriously considering it, she was just trying to get him to calm down, and while that's fair enough really -- how seriously would I take it if one of y'all told me you could paint the future while you were high? -- since we know he's right and she's not, I'm ready for it to be over soon.
I like the twist that it was the unlikeable brother who could fly, but I feel like the revelations about Peter's dad are flying a little too thick and fast and verge on melodrama. Can the next conversation between him and his mom be about making lasagna or doing laundry or something?
And *eyeroll* to the voiceover again. So far I'm entertained, but I'm not in love.
Studio 60, on the other hand, I am in love with. I may quibble and whine because hey, that's just how I roll, but there's little doubt in my mind that this is "my show" and I'm in it as long as I can stand to be.
I admire the sand tackling scene immensely. First, yum. It's proving exactly how well they know each other *and* straddling. Sometimes I'm just that easy.
But second, I have to admire the deft economy of having the characters explicitly point out the homoeroticism. Especially since Matt is a writer as well as a character, and he's locating the interpretation not in himself but in how it appears to outside onlookers, it manages to simultaneously acknowledge *and* diffuse the slash reading. It's a masterpiece of hide-in-plain-sight slight of hand.
Of course, in an ideal world they wouldn't *be* uncomfortable with the homoeroticism, but ideal worlds make boring TV and I don't mind this level of mild internalized homophobia, especially in the beginning. It leaves them somewhere to grow.
It's minor but I didn't think Science, Schmience was all that funny. Obviously -- I hope it's obvious -- I'm on the side of the facts, I just thought it was a very authentically SNL thing, the skit whose one joke is in the premise and it's all downhill from there.
Still torn about the ex-girlfriend. On the one hand, I admire her for standing up for the little guy -- the little guy often gets mocked or dismissed by the hard driving ambitious talented people, and it's nice to see that rebuked from time to time with a little compassion.
On the other hand, *yes*, they're just trying to raise their kids well. But while there's nothing wrong with the motivation, there's something messed up about a culture that believes that you can raise you kids well by not exposing them to dangerous ideas. And that *is* funny, and sad too, and needs pointing out so people can take a step back and see how it looks from the outside. Plus it's not like the joke made fun of them for only making a little money and working in a bread factory. They may not have a lot of power in the country but they have way too much power over the kids. It's *that* exercise of power that it was mocking, and I call it fair game.
Still on the fence about Jordan, too. She's defiant with her superior not just when it counts but almost always, and oddly deferential to her inferior (Danny). Maybe that's supposed to be egalitarian or principled, but it just comes off to me like somebody who's not at home in her role. Which could be interesting if that's the idea, that she's new to this and still trying to figure out where the boundaries are, but I get the sense that we're supposed to read her as supremely confident yet endearingly coltish instead.
On the other hand every time he talks to her Danny gets surprised vulnerable face, and I could forgive a lot for that. And I'll be interested to see how the tell-all-book plotline plays out with the genders swapped compared to the VP on The West Wing.
Didn't the sex club thing happen to the actress who played 7 of 9? I don't mean to make light of the real life trauma of having your spouse overpersuade you to something you find distasteful, especially in the sexual arena. But I do want to say for anyone whose only exposure to the concept has been that and this, that there are women who go to these things of their own accord. It's not all arm-twisty husbands and unhappy wives.
I was hoping for a little bit more writers in the writing plotline -- there was a whole writer's room in the clothing scolding scene, not just the two guys Matt has a grudge against. Where did they go? Oh, well, maybe next time. I like the Matt/Jeanie trust your instincts lesson, and the t-shirt. And I adored the final look between Matt and Danny -- and Danny was dancing with the ex. After her reference to "you'd go nuts if I slow danced with Danny", I have to wonder if that's deliberate on her part.
I also have to wonder, after all that talk about DUI and seatbelts, if we're supposed to make something of the fact that Matt drove off without buckling his, or whether it just doesn't look cool and/or I blinked and missed it.
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Date: 2006-10-03 12:08 pm (UTC)Heroes has me hooked into wanting to know how everything got that way. I don't understand Nicki's power yet and want to know more. I think it was a nice twist on Hiro's power that they brought in the "time" aspect of the time & space. The brothers plot line looks like it has a lot of places to go as the two of the deal differently with the power and at the same time try to deal with years of family drama. Clair's making me like cheerleaders again - there's a Buffyesque color on her story.
As much as I liked the West Wing when I saw it in re-runs, Studio 60 hasn't held my attention yet. The brief shining moment of the tackle scene on the beech didn't do anything to stop the yawning I did throughout the rest of the episode.
... I don't mind this level of mild internalized homophobia, especially in the beginning. It leaves them somewhere to grow.
Except that it doesn't. Sorkin hates fans and specifically slashers, so I bet he replays this over and over, giving them a bit of slash and then undercutting it to get some mileage out of the homoeroticism, but not leaving anything for us to hang onto.
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Date: 2006-10-03 04:21 pm (UTC)Sorkin hates slashers specifically? I missed that part. Do you know if he's specifically asked for no fanfic?
In any case it gives fanfic writers room to grow the characters even if he doesn't. And I'm not so sure he might not that I'm willing to give up hope in ep. 3. He might hate fans but he's given no indication I know about of hating gay people.
I think you're probably right about a repeated go there/pull back, but it also wouldn't upset me terribly if that's all we get. Not that I wouldn't adore it if they (eventually) Went There, but I could see why even without any Sorkin issues, real life network issues, or the characters' internalized homophobia issues, they might be afraid of a Moonlightingesque collapse of the sublimated tension that can drive a buddy dynamic. Plus under the circumstances I'd think everything Matt and Danny have declared about not dating within the show team would go triple for each other.
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Date: 2006-10-04 12:14 am (UTC)I wouldn't mind if he never even hinted that Danny and Matt were anything but straight. You're right, that we could read the slash in the buddy dynamic. But last night seemed like a gratuitous shout out, and as people who have love of the Joss, we can appreciate that, but he stole the payoff by not just letting it lie. Or that's what it seems like to me.
Since he's been anvilicious about it before, I expect that he'll slap fandom around in the text of the show.
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Date: 2006-10-04 12:51 am (UTC)I kind of feel like he already started the fannish slapping around in last week's ep. And I can see how you could read it as as stealing the payoff. It just didn't hit me that way. It felt to me like finding a way to give us our cake and eat it too -- and I'm okay with that, since otherwise I suspect we'd get no cake at all.
Anyway I really wouldn't want them to come out in the third episode. I suspect they're meant to be just genuinely straight guys and are going to stay that way, but if that weren't the case, they should either have started out openly gay in the pilot or else give us a narrative arc and come out during sweeps.