*nods* Well a class on how to outline wouldn't hurt me any. I don't bother for short stories, but again, trying to scale up. I've got a top level outline for my novel, but it doesn't go scene-by-scene, and I'm not sure whether I really can outline to that amount of detail in advance -- though I do know that figuring out what has to be on-staged and what can be off staged is part of this skill I'm trying to develop, so that I don't have to flail at the end of every scene until I intuit what the next should be.