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Jun. 9th, 2004 12:07 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
stakebaitSorry for the spam, but ARRGGGGHHHH.
How can people say with a straight face that treaties about torturing prisoners of war don't count because we're at war? It's in the name! Nobody takes prisoners of peace!
I'm also very fond of "causing pain isn't torture. It's only torture if it's hard for them to endure." But presumably if it's easy for them to endure, it won't cause them to spill any secrets. If they do, it's because it was hard for them to endure the alternative. So you're allowed to do it as long as it doesn't work?
They can't possibly believe this crap. There's no way in hell that they would entertain it for a second if it were turned around, if American prisoners were beingtortured caused moderate amounts of pain and humiliation in some Iraqi compound on the grounds that their forces had a responsibility to keep Iraq safe. Which would, comparatively, actually make more sense, since we invaded them.
All they're really doing is pulling the thinnest possible tissue of doubletalk over the idea that we are not to be judged by the same standard that we hold the rest of the world to. Which has been obvious since Bush accused Saddam of violating UN resolutions, but I hoped an administration so publically obsessed with morality would stop short of cruelty and going back on a promise.
On a totally different, yet still creepy news note, this is interesting. It is an article about why young women are showing less skin, and while various people are trying to spin it as revulsion against celebrity excess, there's a real undercurrent of fear.
My only happy news is this, More evidence of water on Mars.
How can people say with a straight face that treaties about torturing prisoners of war don't count because we're at war? It's in the name! Nobody takes prisoners of peace!
I'm also very fond of "causing pain isn't torture. It's only torture if it's hard for them to endure." But presumably if it's easy for them to endure, it won't cause them to spill any secrets. If they do, it's because it was hard for them to endure the alternative. So you're allowed to do it as long as it doesn't work?
They can't possibly believe this crap. There's no way in hell that they would entertain it for a second if it were turned around, if American prisoners were being
All they're really doing is pulling the thinnest possible tissue of doubletalk over the idea that we are not to be judged by the same standard that we hold the rest of the world to. Which has been obvious since Bush accused Saddam of violating UN resolutions, but I hoped an administration so publically obsessed with morality would stop short of cruelty and going back on a promise.
On a totally different, yet still creepy news note, this is interesting. It is an article about why young women are showing less skin, and while various people are trying to spin it as revulsion against celebrity excess, there's a real undercurrent of fear.
My only happy news is this, More evidence of water on Mars.
